FORUM QUESTION 2

HAVE YOU NOTICED DEEP, UNRESOLVED PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES ARISING SPONTANEOUSLY FROM YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS DURING THE GIVING OF THE FORGIVENESS PRAYER?

HOW HAVE YOU DEALT WITH THESE?

I have noticed physical detoxing and more people telling me of their emotional issues. MY RESPONSE TO SELF IS INCREASING THIS PRAYER WHILE SHARING THIS TEACHING WITH OTHERS. ALSO I AM LISTENING MORE TO MY BODY TELLING ME WHAT IT NEEDS TO CLEANSE AND HEAL. I AM SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS CLASS.

At the first class during the meditation tears continued to flow down my face as feelings of overwhelming sadness poured out of me and memories of painful experiences moved through my mind. It was a cleansing process that made me realize that I still require to let go of these memories, some I thought I had finished with yet obviously had not. I find that when people tell me negative things about themselves or others that I now am automatically just cleaning, cleaning, cleaning and that what they say bothers me less now than it did before I started to use the Ho’oponopono prayer. Thank you, I love you!

I haven't noticed any deep psychological issues, but I have noticed things like irritation about someone, worry about a situation, or disturbing memories. And I find that when I continue doing the ho'oponopono, I zero in on the cause of it withing myself. Not only that, but my behavior changes so that I take action that would avoid negativity or produce a positive resolution. For example, after the class today, I went to the store, and as I was pulling out, a person walked right behind me. This brought up the fear of accidents and the memory of my daughter's accident. So I did the ho'oponopono on my own carelessness, impulsiveness, backseat driving, and speeding (all of which were factors in the accident). My thoughts then turned to my daughter's requirement for a special diet and her refusal to research it and let me know what foods she can and cannot eat. I felt some irritation, so I did the ho'oponopono on my own too-busyness and misplaced priorities. Later, I went to the health food store, and on the way, I noticed that I wasn't speeding like I usually do. While shopping, I browsed in the book section and found a diet and cookbook for my daughters diet.

My bad driving and my complaining about my daughter's inaction were habits that I was unable to overcome and resolve until I did the ho'oponopono. It seems to be a catalyst for action.

1-28 update: Upon further reflection, I realized that besides the blue-flame action that ho'oponopono is a catalyst for, it also catalyzes yellow-flame wisdom through inspiration. Once, the pink-flame love clears the memories that are blocking inspiration from your divine Self, wisdom comes with an aha moment and you clearly see what action to take to solve or avoid probelms for yourself and others. It truly is a mighty threefold flame technique with love as the key.

I had a record come up Saturday evening, which I will not elaborate on except to state that I was in tears and was not able to think about anything else so I went to bed early, made calls first to Mother Mary, Quan Yin, Nada, St. Germain and El Morya. I then began doing the I Am sorry, please forgive me, Thank-you, I love you until I fell asleep and when I awoke this morning the burden had been lifted. I Am so grateful for this teaching and this way of cleaning my memory body of the debris that is there. It keeps me in the now and is not rote, because I have to focus on the words and truly feel that forgiveness for my self and others. The first time I heard the song Ho'oponopono, it was like reconnecting with something very Important from the past. I can't find the words to express how it made me feel except for a feeling of joy. Thank-you for bringing this to my awareness.

I was working with the Cosmic Clock charting all of my events from age 0-now...not giving away my age, suffice it to say I' ve been around the clock more than a few times! Anyway, after charting all the major events in my life, I highlighted each event in color so that pink for instance was used for major relationships, marriage, divorce. Then orange for disturbing events. When I got to the 8 o'clock line, Virgo there were all of my major tests and initiations! A very tough task master, Justice/ Injustice. Here I experienced the Vietnam War, Kennedy assasinations, Martin Luther King's assasination, Woodstock, the sexual revolution; Dylan, the Beatles, drugs, and college. These tests tried me at every level of my being, mental, emotional, spiritual, psychological and my family history. The tests of Virgo have been the most challenging for me. I had to spend a significant amount of time clearing those records with Ho'oponopono. I stayed with it until I felt the shift and the clearance came. I am especially grateful to Archangel Zadkiel and Holy Amethyst who promised to take all these records from us and clear them.

I had noticed that prior to working with Hono'pono pono that many disturbing things were coming to the surface within my being. Sometimes the appearance of these thoughts and feelings were debilitating and would cause me to go into a mini depression. What I have noticed is that Hono'pono pono; is causing these disturbing apparitions to evaporate. They may return; however they are weaker and weaker and their effects are not as devastating to my psyche.

The mantra, Hono'pono pono has become a living breathing entity in my life. It could be seen as an angel of light that comes to my rescue and preserves the peace within my being. I call her and she vanquishes the dark forces of night that live within the deep recesses of my sub-conscious. I have more peace even though my outer world may be in turmoil.

I understand that Hono'pono pono is a life long endeavor, which I gladly accept.
This cleansing action, this being; this "knight light" is another vehicle, sent from God to help me on my path back to wholeness and purity.

After finishing reading the book Zero Limits I started writing down important events in my life in my Cosmic Clock for our homework. Before I had written everything down I started giving the Ho´oponopono prayer whatever I did and wherever I went, and new things kept coming before I even had the chance to finish what I started cleaning on. These last few weeks it feels like every issue I´ve ever had and all the obstacles I´ve been working on and struggling with my entire life has come to the surface. These are deep things that´s been holding me back my whole life and preventing me from being who I AM and doing what I want. I´ve tried so many ways to overcome, solve and heal these issues before and they are still there. I keep cleaning the best I can, but it´s hard to stick to one subject since new things keep coming, without the feeling that the former one is resolved. It feels like “everyone else” (also an issue…) gets fast results to their cleaning and I´m just stuck in my memories… I´m still on the 12 o´clock line in my Cosmic Clock, since all these other things have come in between, but the funny thing is, that all these really old memories and feelings I´m struggling with right now probably came to me before or with my birth, so maybe I´m working with my Cosmic Clock after all, and that my conception and birth is the most important event in my life, and it just takes time to heal…

Posted By Wayne on 22 Jan 2012 10:20 PM
I haven't noticed any deep psychological issues, but I have noticed things like irritation about someone, worry about a situation, or disturbing memories. And I find that when I continue doing the ho'oponopono, I zero in on the cause of it withing myself. Not only that, but my behavior changes so that I take action that would avoid negativity or produce a positive resolution. For example, after the class today, I went to the store, and as I was pulling out, a person walked right behind me. This brought up the fear of accidents and the memory of my daughter's accident. So I did the ho'oponopono on my own carelessness, impulsiveness, backseat driving, and speeding (all of which were factors in the accident). My thoughts then turned to my daughter's requirement for a special diet and her refusal to research it and let me know what foods she can and cannot eat. I felt some irritation, so I did the ho'oponopono on my own too-busyness and misplaced priorities. Later, I went to the health food store, and on the way, I noticed that I wasn't speeding like I usually do. While shopping, I browsed in the book section and found a diet and cookbook for my daughters diet.

My bad driving and my complaining about my daughter's inaction were habits that I was unable to overcome and resolve until I did the ho'oponopono. It seems to be a catalyst for action.

1-28 update: Upon further reflection, I realized that besides the blue-flame action that ho'oponopono is a catalyst for, it also catalyzes yellow-flame wisdom through inspiration. Once the pink-flame love clears the memories that are blocking inspiration from your divine Self, wisdom comes with an aha moment and you clearly see what action to take to solve or avoid problems for yourself and others. It truly is a mighty threefold flame technique with love as the key.

Something that came up for me has to do with service. I've always felt that I'm here on earth to serve. I had a record come up this past week of not desiring to serve certain lifestreams. I realized that this relates to the fallen angels not desiring to serve mankind. The fallen angels felt that mankind was beneath them and they didn't think man was worth their effort.

I've come to the realization that this resistance in me to serving certain souls is a similar rebellion of pride. I'm working on the virtue of humility so that I am willing, able and ready to serve whoever God sends to my world with love and forgiveness. Ho'oponopono is helping me to clean so that I can serve God better.

It's funny because when I do Ho'Oponopono I start with a broad statement. Someone triggered something in me that I know I need to work on, so I start with that specific incident and as I continue on my Ho'Oponopono other things will come up, the root of the issue starts to show itself. If it weren't for the benign incident that triggered my reaction to begin with I wouldn't have started to work on the deep rooted unease that is certainly the "real' issue."

For example, I was upset with my husband this morning because we were having my son's 4 year old birthday party at the house (20 x 4 year olds... enough to make any mother screaming Ho'Oponopono and running for the hills). He had come home late last night from a work dinner and was tired and not feeling well so I was trying to do all the prep work myself. And I was getting really irritated and started thinking of the pattern I have had of someone using up all their energy on other things so that when they have time for me, I get residual energy... so instead of getting mad at him... well after I got finished being mad at him from saying my Ho'Oponopono) I started to re-shift my prayer and began to apologize to myself for not giving myself the time I would like and always expending my energy on other things or people which prohibits me from accomplishing the things that are important for me... he was just mirroring how I treat myself.

I find that when I do Ho'Oponopono my anger or unease of a situation immediately dissipates and it enables me to see more clearly what the real problem for me is, where it lies and where it came from. I know it is not needed to do such analysis and that we should just say the prayer when we get triggered, but I like to understand for myself where the issues came from and why I am being triggered. I know I will get to a point where that information will become irrelevant, but I am honoring the part of myself that is still curious and exploring the deeper understanding of myself for now.

While working on one problem I felt a sense of injustice and examples from the past came to mind. I just continued to work on them till I felt a good connection. That only took a couple minutes and I finished out with forgiveness decrees and violet flame just to make sure.

There have been a couple of issues that come up regularly that I have been very concerned about in regard to how limiting they have been for my soul growth. This is the first time I have really understood the vital connection of inner child work in the process of purification. I have also experienced a greater communion with my I Am Presence. It is an ongoing awareness with both aspects of my self. Experiencing this new state of awareness makes anything that comes up so much easier to handle. I haven’t had so much come up during the giving of the prayer, yet when things come up at other times, then both my I Am Presence and inner child are wrapped in Ho’oponopono where peace, love and a higher understanding comes.

Dwinn

I have not had deep issues come up yet, mostly memories of regrets from past mistakes and they do clear with Ho'oponopono. Perhaps as I learn to do deep meditation, which I have tended to avoid, more records will come up. Probably from past lives, as my childhood in this life was pretty uneventful and protected. I started a Zero Limits study group here at Stelle this week and am excited about the results. 6 ladies came. We watched the first clip of Dr. Hew Len and Joe from the course page and took turns sharing experiences. Some didn't have the book yet. I played the Ho'oponopono song at the end of the session. They wanted copies, so one lady copied it from my song book for the others. Everyone loved the group and one emailed me about having a profound experience clearing something from childhood that has bothered her all her life. Then she was led to work on records from WW2 and went through a whole process with that. She expressed joy and gratitude for this method. A 7th lady now wants to join us. I think this could lead to some new Heartfriends. During my meditation I got two ideas: One to advertise a reading room here, and the other to find other songs from my HC song book to share with the group. One lady had mentioned that when Morrnah was here teaching with Hew Len years ago she told this lady and her boyfriend "You're from the stars!" This lady has always had a feeling of attraction to the Great Central Sun. So I will ask her to copy that for us to sing next! Patricia Carlson

Last year, I was very challenged by taking over my husband's former responsibilities. I consciously thought I was o.k. with it. Ho'oponopono revealed to me that I resented this new set of responsibilities to the point of becoming ill. While on the Africa pilgrimage, away from all responsibilities, my symptoms were almost gone. I came home and was overcome by the real estate challenges and all that they entailed and my physical health began to deteriorate FAST. While meditating and continuing the Ho'oponopono, I finally admitted that I disliked, was avoiding, was being dishonest and generally rebelling against accepting what I had been "given". With continual cleansing and meditation, I am now finally loving, forgiving and thanking my little self. I am hearing my Higher SELF comfort, encourage and instruct me - even finding people to help me. I am seeing a new attitude emerge in which I can embrace what God has brought to me. I am actually beginning to enjoy learning about real estate. I have almost stopped having coughing spells, my throat is healing, digestion is improved and I am sleeping almost all night - and I have a great sense of relief and gratefulness each day! Thank you Father-Mother Presence and Ho'oponopono! And I thank all who have prayed for me these past months. I am grateful that we are all ONE.

When giving the Forgiveness prayer, my awareness tends to shift toward my Presence. At the same time, one or more long-standing unresolved issues may come to mind that have kept me apart from my Presence. I then work on those issues with the Forgiveness Prayer. I am happy to report that, at long last, tangible progress is being made in these areas.

I also have been taking responsibility for everything I see that I judge to be wrong or undesirable and enfolding it with the Forgiveness Prayer. I have since witnessed abrupt changes in other people's attitudes and a growing number of synchronicities in my life

I realize that my story is rather general with few if any details. Yet I trust that it helps to show how important and effective the Forgiveness Prayer is becoming in my life.

Joy and Peace!
Richard Lorenz

I notice when I apply Ho'oponopono an irritation or anger will come up suddenly.
My first reaction is to blame someone or something after the study of Ho'oponopono,
I know there is no one to blame.

The teaching is simply profound. I just clean clean clean.

One day this week a record or feeling came up for me so I cleaned on it and was still...I also used violet fire prayers and visualization and had an insight as well as a lifting. At other times when strong energetic or memory responses have come up and I desired to get away or to blame or project that other one as bad or the problem, by God's grace or Divinity I have been able to breathe and remember that it is information with-in me that is at comming up and I can clean breathe and feel the empowerment, the transmutation and centered within this. thankyou autumn

I find that memories come up and, inevitably, accompanying issues. If they were resolved, they wouldn't come up. They are here to be addressed and transmuted. Some of these memories have haunted me for years. With ho' oponopono, I can receive these uncomfortable guests with a compassionate heart. At least I really do try to do this. My impressions of these "other" people are, after all, my creations. So I allow myself to embrace them as part of me and ask for forgiveness. Whatever I think they did to me, I ask for forgiveness. Whatever I think I've done to them, I ask for forgiveness. Whatever they think I did to them or they did to me, I ask for forgiveness.

I can't say that I am yet eager to greet these parts of me - especially since they seem to flood my brain before I even open my eyes in the morning, making it difficult for me to greet the day with joy. I awaken with a sense of anxiety and depression. But every day I take responsibility for that creation and go to work with the shadowed past. I allow each sorrow to speak. The words they say are, "I love you, I am sorry, please forgive me, thank-you." In a past dispensation, we used to pray for "all whom I have ever wronged and for all who have ever wronged me." And now, since I know that all of this is inside of me, I have a way to contact and connect with those memories and issues and release them. "I own them, so I can heal them." I have this ability and power through the recognition that we are, indeed, one. This is God's grace and compassion in action. I will continue to clean, clean, clean until the tears have all been shed and the joy of the Christ clearly and resoundingly greets me every morning. in the Tibetan Shambhala tradition, they call this the "rising sun consciousness." I pray for it to fill me and ds-place and replace the dreary qualities of the not-self. I am very grateful for Ho' oponopono, for the Hearts Center, for my Beloved Heart Friends, for David and Mona and for this Blessed new dispensation and opportunity. Thank-you Masters and Angels and Elemental Beings. How I love you.

Wow, thank you for talking about physical detox. I have experienced similar upsets in my physical body. My response has been to put one hand on my solar plexus and one hand on my throat and give the Ho'oponopono prayer many times, both in Hawaiian and in English. Sometimes this brings up mental and emotional images, and I work on those with the prayer. After a while I feel better.

My focus has been to work with my inner child. In my first prayer session I saw injuries she had bore, for she appeared very beaten up in many diverse ways (cuts, bruises, blood flowing, etc0 which gave me a shock. As I continued with the prayer statements and visualized streams of love, I witnessed her image shift and change. At times her face would glow and radiate the most exquisite white light from within and she was angelic looking to me. At one point she screamed when the love energy I was directing to her begun to swirl around her so intensely as it picked up at lightening speed. I immediately stopped and she calmed down. As I continued with the prayer statements her appearance again changed, this time into showing me a ferocious face, coming forward to bite me as a dog might do. I pulled back, just like it was happening in real physical time to avoid being bitten. A various times she would tell me not to hurt her. All this was overwhelming and disturbed me greatly. This may very well be the first time ever in my evolution I was acknowledging her and I did not know what to make of all this.

Each morning I greet and acknowledge her to begin our day together. I explain to her what activities I am engaged in so she understands when I have to take my attention off her and attend to a physical world business activity.

Now that several sessions have taken place and I have gone very slowly and very gently with her (as Dr Hew Len instructs in his class presentation) as well as called upon our sponsoring master teachers of this course for help, she is calming down, accepting love, allowing me to stroke and comfort her. I have now begun to include divine mother and father in my ho'oponopono prayer sessions. The benefit I am experiencing is an inner calm, fortitude and ease as I move throughout my daily activities. Kathleen Waters

Yes, I have noticed deep psychological issues coming up - particularly feelings of injustice and irritation around being told what to do. This seems to be my primary test right now, as I see this showing up with my job, my family, my roomates, and even some classwork that I'm taking. I continue to use the Ho'oponopono to catch each wave as it comes up and it has made a big difference. As requests come in and I feel resentment welling up, now I'm letting go of the resentment with the cleaning and just taking the nest step that needs to be done.

Sunday and Tuesday brought big tests for me in this area, and while I did my best to clean and let go (and my actions were definitely improved), I still managed to get sick, which I'm still dealing with today. At first I thought it was a cold, but now I realize it must be physical detoxing going on.

- Benson

Last week I couldn't answer this question, but today an issue arose that finally qualified as a 'deep psychological issue'. I was reading a spiritual book that had been given to me at a conference and it was talking about fully trusting in God for everything. The author referred to Jesus's teaching to the rich young ruler to 'go and sell everything he had and give to the poor.' Well, I couldn't understand why this was getting my attention so strongly. In the past year I have had to let go of practically everything I possessed that represented any type of material security. The author stated that it wasn't necessarily in the action of giving that God was satisfied, but in the willingness of the person. Well, again - I was puzzled and felt that I have always willingly and cheerfully given of my abundance over the past 30+ years. I also heard a replay of one of Jesus teachings today that spoke about how a person with little or no material abundance can actually be richer than those who have great abundance. The reason being that those with great abundance require it, so that they can give to others to balance their karma! Well it seems that I have been on both sides of this fence at various times. But now, what could be going on that I was so involved in this teaching? I finally came to realize that I have been attempting to control the way a property is being sold rather than just letting go of it, and allowing God's will to manifest - but again why the self-deception? As I continued to muse on the strangeness of this situation - where I am totally willing, but somehow wanting control - a remembrance of an old record emerged whereby I could see the block in my unconscious. When I was in high school, I had just gotten a paying job and my father demanded that I pay rent or move out. I decided to move out and started life on my own at 17 years of age. What this did psychologically was to create an idea in me that I was unworthy to be supported and therefore had to earn my own way throughout life. This underlying attitude has stayed with me all these years and the idea that I was worthy to have God provide for me was not what my earthly father had taught me. Now, with the help of Ho'oponopono and our Beloved Masters I am able to release this block and allow the ruby love and mercy to flow in and clean this unconscious wound. I am so very grateful for Dr. Hew Len and his teaching, our beloved Ascended Master and Heartfriends who continue to support Meru University! I love you, I am sorry, please forgive me, Thank you.

I have had insights into several of my own personal core issues, their actual causes, causing great surprise and even an "Ah Ha!" feeling. This has been accompanied by great emotional upheaval and sometimes a lot of crying, but it has also been very cathartic. When one of these situations arises, and I have a realization or insight, I give the Ho'oponopono prayer and hug myself.

Actually for several weeks before the class began, I was experiencing a lot of fear and by giving these prayers and giving it to God, it is pretty much gone and feel a sense of freedom and peace (where before there was none) and understanding of myself! I am constantly amazed at the speed and efficiency of these prayers, it is phenomenal.
I am grateful for this wondrous gift!

Dear Jenny,
Take as much time as you need! I have been working on my Cosmic Clock for many, many years. The wonderful thing about it is though is that it gets faster to clean everything once you get a momentum on it. So, yes, stay with the 12 o'clock line until you feel a shift. Then continue. Not all lines of the clock will feel as intense as some others. God Bless you in your work with Ho'oponopono. Pamela